Marxists hate womens right to choose : Melbourne Indymedia

Then there's the two male authoritarian death cults constant desire to keep uppity women in their proper place as we see most vididly today in Latin America...Throughout Latin America and the Caribbean, abortion is legal only in
Cuba, Puerto Rico, and Guyana.

Abortion is illegal in Chile. Those undergoing the procedure can be
penalized with three to five years in jail; those performing it, 15
months to five years. An estimated 160,000 abortions are performed
every year there, and nearly 10 percent of women involved die of
complications, according to Chile's Health and Sexual and
Reproductive Rights Network.
Government officials have said that decriminalizing abortion is not
on the agenda. "We are not going to do absolutely anything in this
area, which is not part of our governing program," said Health
Minister María Barría, according to the December 17 New York Times.
When asked why, Barría replied, "We are in a coalition." She was
referring to the governing alliance made up of Bachelet's Socialist
Party and the Christian Democrats.
In November, Chile's National Congress voted 61-21 not to discuss a
bill that would have allowed abortions when the pregnancy put a
woman's life at risk or in cases of rape.
Throughout Latin America and the Caribbean, abortion is legal only in
Cuba, Puerto Rico, and Guyana.

And when Venezuela’s leftist populist President Hugo Chavez cited Jesus Christ repeatedly in his election victory speech, he joined a growing number of Latin American politicians who are embracing authoritarian religion—or at least pretending to do so.

Are they sincere or are we seeing an epidemic of religious populism? even, gasp! - ' liberation theology?'

Many analysts see a growing political manipulation of religious fervor in the region, alongside a greater Catholic church influence in state affairs. Some fear that, much as in other parts of the world, religion will soon be used to fuel domestic and even regional confrontations.

Before we look into whether such fears are justified, let’s look at the facts. Chavez, who has often lashed out against Venezuela’s church hierarchy for allegedly siding with the country’s oligarchy, and who has been quoted by biographer Agustin Blanco Munoz as having said that he wasn’t “Christian or Catholic,” spent part of his victory speech talking about Jesus Christ.

“The Kingdom of Christ is the kingdom of love, of peace, the kingdom of justice, of solidarity, brotherhood, the kingdom of Marxism,” Chavez said. “This is the kingdom of the future of Venezuela.”

Weeks earlier, Nicaragua’s leftist president-elect Daniel Ortega had won his country’s November 5 election by dropping his earlier 'socialist' rhetoric and running as a religious Catholic. He recently married his longtime companion in church - supported a church-backed law banning therapeutic abortions - and staged photo opportunities in various religious settings.

In Ecuador conservative banana industry magnate Alvaro Noboa recently rose from almost nowhere in the polls to win the first-round presidential election by running as El mensajero de Dios (God’s messenger).
He was later defeated in a November 26 runoff vote by leftist populist Rafael Correa, who in the final stretch of the campaign presented himself as a fervent Catholic.
In Argentina, a just-retired Catholic bishop in Misiones province drew national attention last month by winning a local election that marked the first political defeat of President Nestor Kirchner.

In few countries is the authoritarian Catholic Church pushing its weight more visibly than in Nicaragua.
Roman Catholic Cardinal Miguel Obando threw his backing behind his once archrival Ortega during the recent electoral campaign, and Ortega has reciprocated by backing the Church-supported abortion law.

“There is an all-out alliance between Ortega and Obando,” Sergio Ramirez, the leftist Nicaraguan vice president during Ortega’s regime in the 1980s, told me recently. “What we’re seeing in Nicaragua is a permanent intromission of the Church in state affairs.”

In addition, the authoritarian Catholic Church has become a much more active player in Argentina since that country’s 2001 economic crash, and barely a day goes by in Mexico without headlines quoting Cardinal Norberto Rivera’s statements on almost every political or social issue.

A Latinobarometro poll conducted in 17 Latin American countries last year revealed that the Catholic Church is by far the most respected institution in the region: 71 percent of Latin Americans said they trust the Church. By comparison, 43 percent said they trust their president, 42 percent trust the armed forces, 38 percent trust the private sector, 28 percent trust Congress and only 18 percent trust political parties.

Among the countries where this Church enjoys the greatest support are Guatemala, Honduras, Paraguay and Panama, with more than 80 percent trust levels, Venezuela (74 percent), Colombia (75 percent) and Ecuador (77 percent).
Church actions aside, much of Latin America’s current religious fervor may have to do with the growing disenchantment with Peronist style politics.

“People need to cling to some emotional element, and this emotional element had long been supplied by ideologies,” says Marcos Aguinis, one of Latin America’s most talented writers and religion analysts and a psychiatrist by training.
“The collapse of ideologies such as Leninism has left a vacuum, and has led people to seek other things to which to cling with passion, such as religions.”

You do not win a major prize for your predictions that capitalism will no longer develop the productive forces, and that the only alternative is authoritarian-socialism or barbarism, if capitalism subsequently not only expands phenomenally, but invades new areas in a quite spectacular way, improving in the process the living standard of countless millions of people. It was this failure of prediction that destroyed Marxism-Leninisms chance of defeating feudal opressive reactionary and grossly sexist religion.

By the way did you know that Marxists lick lollypops?

Yeah they decided to be part of the human race and I caught one red handed the other day licking lollypops down the street. I asked what are you? And she said a Marxist why what are you?

I said I am a 'unique' human being who is priceless.

Fascist dictators lick lollypops too so does that give them the right to oppress and murder people? Or is it only marxists that are allowed to be stalinist pricks because they are 'human'?

You marxists need to stop being hypocrits

Check out any marxist group and you will see aggressive dominant males and sycophantic female hangers on desperate for acceptance. They make the capitalists look liberated.

pathetic - like hearing a primary school rugby team arguing - before running onto the field to play the All Blacks

take on the State - for a change - instead of your imagined rivals for 'hearts and minds'

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The coverage (feature) of the abortion issue by sydney imc was disgusting

it was changed when I complained

http://www.active.org.au/sydney/news/front.php3?article_id=4262&group=webcast

One of the people who ridiculed the attacks (by the people we expelled) against d a r w i n's feminist articles was a female socialist

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This whole network is disgustingly Stalinist - so how can we point fingers?

after falsely accusing our collective of lying

ignoring the evidence that cleared us

hosting race/hate campaigns and using images of dead and battered Aboriginal people to attack and distress us

lying and censoring us on imc lists

condoning the threats and violence at our homes and in the streets by people we expelled

not to mention the last 6 years of hate and misinformation

this Open Publishing 'network' is now prohibiting my access to their sites (all of them)

we know how this network loves Openness and Process - and how they are obliged to explain their actions under the POU - so as an affiliated imcer I've asked them to explain this prohibition

still no answer

We are against Prohibition up here

p a r i a h n t . org/ O z - indymedia

spaced for truth filter

mick
d im c

That's rubbish. They hate everyone's right to choose.

btw
by we are opposed to capitailist globalisation? Tuesday January 09, 2007 at 03:04 PM

"...if capitalism subsequently not only expands phenomenally, but invades new areas in a quite spectacular way, improving in the process the living standard of countless millions of people."

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is that what happens? - coke and maccas in abundance - with global warming and servility to the war-mongering USA which ignores the International courts

capitalism as benevolence?

Censorship?

after your long running hate and race campaigns to exclude feral filth and blacks?

- priceless

We salute you

Grand Imperial Wizard - O z

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Marx and Engels made some effort, in their era, to support womens' rights.

Their modern day lackeys are too busy using his philosophy to fuck sleazy fat old feminists and also occasionally a young brainwashed underage runaway.

After all if all you can get is a fat hairy feminist with knee length flappers - why not?

"We are also ageist and bigoted" - claims Anarchist spokesperson

"sleazy fat old feminists"

"young brainwashed underage runaway."

"a fat hairy feminist with knee length flappers"

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Hey, Ya'll,

Just a-wanta let ya know that I love communists.
I like 'em barbequed. 'Course, ah know we dun made
some mistakes but hey, can't they take a joke?
N' hey, pretty soon the U.S.A. will be economically destroyed
by those same good ole boy globalists who see us (n' Russia) as a
threat to their world dom-in-A-shun. So then you can all blame them?
N' no, it's not true that I personally started the U.S. Civil War.
Georgie Bush

The article is interesting, but I think it is important to be skeptical of abortion related statistics. Saying that 160,000 abortions occur annually in a country of about 15 million is a bit high. It is also made up. Nobody knows the exact number of abortions that take place when it is illegal to obtain one. The article argues that 10% of aborting women die each year. 16,000 women of child bearing age die each year from abortion in Chile? That simply isnt true. It is important to remember that organizations that advocate for abortion want it to be legal so they can practice their craft without penalty and they are prepared to lie to do it. In the USA, NARAL, simply lied ( later admitted to it) that 7,000 women a year died of illegal abortion. The real number was a few dozen. In Brasil abortion advocates cited numbers higher than the total mortality rate for women of childbearing age( all causes). They did the same in Italy and Germany, citing made up numbers 1,000 times larger than the real figures. 16,000 women are NOT dying each year of abortion in Chile. Doctors use penicilin now and dont want to be caught by botching an abortion. In North America, abortions were still largely the domain of doctors,even when illegal. It is likley the same in chile.

Most of the pro-choice political actions in Melbourne recently have been organised by one or other of the Marxist-influenced groups. Anarchists do nothing but lie.